Bach Standard Series Flugelhorn Mouthpiece in Silver Group II 17C


Description
When selecting a mouthpiece, a brass instrumentalist should choose one with a solid, compact tone of large volume. A carefully selected Bach mouthpiece can help improve a player's embouchure, attack, tonguing and endurance.
Because no two players have the same lip or tooth formation, what is perfect for one may be entirely unsuitable for the other. Bach produces many different models so that each player can find the best mouthpiece for their individual embouchure.
A mouthpiece consists of the rim, cup, throat, and backbore. Bringing these various components into proper relationship constitutes the art of superior mouthpiece production.
In choosing a special combination of rim, cup, throat and backbore designs, consider the effects of each.
RIM
Wide: Increases endurance
Narrow: Improves flexibility, range
Round: Improves comfort
Sharp: Increases brilliance, precision of attack
CUP
Large: Increases volume, control
Small: Relieves fatigue, weakness
Deep: Darkens tone, especially in low register
Shallow: Brightens tone, improves response, especially in high register
THROAT
Large: Increases blowing freedom, volume, tone; sharpens high register (largest sizes also sharpen low register
Small: Increases resistance, endurance, brilliance; flattens high register
BACKBORE
Except in general terms, it isn't possible to identify backbores by size because they also vary in shape. Various combinations of size and shape make the tone darker or more brilliant, raise or lower the pitch in one or more registers, increase or decrease volume. In each instance, the effect depends in part on the throat and cup used in combination with the backbore.
Key To Trumpet, Cornet and Fluegelhorn Model Numbers:
Bach trumpet, cornet and fluegelhorn mouthpieces have been numbered in an orderly progression from the largest to the smallest diameters and from the deepest to the most shallow cup, each with a choice of rim designs.
Rim shape is described for each indi- vidual model throughout the catalog. Model numbers progress numerically from model #1 with the largest cup diameter, to model #20C with the smallest cup diameter.
Cup depths are notated with letters. "A" cups are the deepest; standard cups have no letter designation; progressively shallower cups are marked B through F.
- "A" Models have very deep cups, #24 backbores, and emit a large, dark sound.
Models with no letter designation have deep cups, #10 backbores, and produce a rich, full, clear tone. - "B" Models have medium deep cups, #7 backbores, and have a full,
Teutonic tone with great volume. - "C" Models have medium cups, #10 backbores, and are preferred by many players that alternate between B™, C and D trumpet.
- "D" Models have medium-shallow cups, #76 backbores, and produce a sparkling, brilliant tone, especially in the high register. Artists who continually play in the extreme high register use them to advantage.
- "E" Models have shallow cups, #117 backbores, and are designed for use on soprano and piccolo trumpets. Also preferred by extreme high register players.
- "F" Models have extra-shallow cups, #76 backbores, and are also preferred by extreme high register players.
- "V" Models have V style cups. "V" designates a very deep cup, #20 throat, and #25 backbore; "MV" designates a medium deep cup, #25 throat, and #25 backbore; "SV" designates a shallow cup, #25 throat, and #25 backbore.
- "W" Models have a wide, cushion rim for soft, thick lips.

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Specs
- Model No.: 9 - Produces a colorful, liquid tone which is uniform over the entire scale. Desirable for all-around work. Has a smaller cup diameter.
- Depth of Cup: deep
- Approx. Cup Diameter: 16.05 mm
- Rim Shape: Medium wide, lowered toward the outside
- Model No.: 9A - Produces a mellow, sweet tone.
- Depth of Cup: very deep
- Approx. Cup Diameter: 16.05 mm
- Rim Shape: Medium wide, well rounded.
- Model No.: 9B - Corresponds with No. 9. Slightly darker tone. Players with narrow lips who tire quickly feel relieved when using this model.
- Depth of Cup: medium deep
- Approx. Cup Diameter: 16.05 mm
- Rim Shape: Medium wide, lowered toward the outside.
- Model No.: 9C - Similar in size to No. 9 but produces a more brilliant, open tone. Free high register, easy response. Suitable for strenuous all-around work by players with narrow lips.
- Depth of Cup: medium
- Approx. Cup Diameter: 16.05 mm
- Rim Shape: Medium wide, lowered toward the outside.
- Model No.: 9D - Similar in size to No. 9 and in tone to the more brilliant No. 7D.
- Depth of Cup: medium shallow
- Approx. Cup Diameter: 16.05 mm
- Rim Shape: Medium wide, lowered toward the outside. Players with narrow, sensitive lips get satisfactory results with
- this model. Recommended for the extreme high register.
- Model No.: 10 - Similar to No. 7, but smaller in size and with a broad, flat rim. Suitable for players with fleshy, soft lips.
- Depth of Cup: deep
- Approx. Cup Diameter: 16.00 mm
- Rim Shape: Fairly wide with rather broad, flat surface.
- Model No.: 10B - Same size as No. 10 but with warmer tone. Gives good results to players with heavy, thick lips”especially those who become
- easily fatigued.
- Depth of Cup: medium deep
- Approx. Cup Diameter: 16.00 mm
- Rim Shape: Fairly wide with rather broad, flat surface.
- Model No.: 10C - Same rim as No. 10, but with a medium C cup. Especially designed for high notes and sparkling brilliancy.
- Depth of Cup: medium
- Approx. Cup Diameter: 16.00 mm
- Rim Shape: Fairly wide with rather broad, flat surface.
- Model No.: 10-1/2A - Produces the mellow, rich lyric cornet tone favored by players of the Italian school.
- Depth of Cup: very deep
- Approx. Cup Diameter: 15.90 mm
- Rim Shape: Medium wide, Well rounded
- Model No.: 10-1/2C - Fine high register, resonating low register. Particularly useful to players without a strong embouchure. Ideal for C trumpet.
- Depth of Cup: medium
- Approx. Cup Diameter: 15.90 mm
- Rim Shape: Medium wide
- Model No.: 10-1/2CW - Size, cup shape, and playing qualities are similar to the No. 101„2C Cushion rim recommended for players who use heavy pressure.
- Depth of Cup: medium
- Approx. Cup Diameter: 15.90 mm
- Rim Shape: Extra wide, high toward the inner edge.
- Model No.: 10-1/2D - Similar in size to No. 101„2C, with a shallower cup for more brilliance and an easier high register.
- Depth of Cup: medium shallow
- Approx. Cup Diameter: 15.90 mm
- Rim Shape: Medium wide, high toward the inner edge.
- Model No.: 10-1/2DW - Same depth of cup and diameter as No. 101„2D, with an extra wide cushion rim for players with fleshy lips.
- Depth of Cup: medium shallow
- Approx. Cup Diameter: 15.90 mm
- Rim Shape: Extra wide, high toward the inner edge.
- Model No.: 10-1/2E- The same scintillating tone as No. 7E. Preferred by players with weak lips who have to play in the high register.
- Depth of Cup: shallow
- Approx. Cup Diameter: 15.90 mm
- Rim Shape: Medium wide, high toward the inner edge.
- Model No.: 10-1/2EW- Cup diameter and shape are the same as No. 101„2E, but the extra wide rim offers support to players who have soft, fleshy lips
- and play continually in the extreme high register. Sometimes used for piccolo trumpet.
- Depth of Cup: shallow
- Approx. Cup Diameter: 15.90 mm
- Rim Shape: Extra wide, high toward the inner edge.
- Model No.: 10-3/4A - Slightly smaller cup diameter than No. 101„2A. Has the mellow, sweet tone generally used by players of the Italian school.
- Depth of Cup: very deep
- Approx. Cup Diameter: 15.75 mm
- Rim Shape: Medium wide, well rounded.
- Model No.: 10-3/4CW - Cushion rim for players with thick, fleshy lips who are accus- tomed to using much pressure. There is no easier-blowing mouthpiece with such voluminous and brilliant tone.
- Depth of Cup: medium
- Approx. Cup Diameter: 15.75 mm
- Rim Shape: extra wide
- Model No.: 10-3/4EW - Shallower than No. 103„4CW to produce a very penetrating, glittering tone. For extreme high register work. Cushion rim.
- Depth of Cup: shallow
- Approx. Cup Diameter: 15.75 mm
- Rim Shape: extra wide
- Model No.: 11A - A medium-small mouthpiece with a round, full, old-fashioned cornet tone.
- Depth of Cup: very deep
- Approx. Cup Diameter: 15.70 mm
- Rim Shape: Medium wide, well rounded
- Model No.: 11B - A medium-small mouthpiece with a beautiful, warm, clear tone. Responds very easily, especially in the upper register, for players with delicate embouchures.
- Depth of Cup: medium deep
- Approx. Cup Diameter: 15.70 mm
- Rim Shape: medium wide, well rounded
- Model No.: 11C - A beautiful brilliant C trumpet tone that requires little effort to play in the high register, yet with a free low range.
- Depth of Cup: medium
- Approx. Cup Diameter: 15.70 mm
- Rim Shape: medium wide
- Model No.: 11D - Produces a brilliant tone, effective in the high register. Good for players not having a strong embouchure.
- Depth of Cup: medium shallow
- Approx. Cup Diameter: 15.70 mm
- Rim Shape: medium wide, well rounded
- Model No.: 11DW - Players with thick, fleshy lips, especially those who can not rely on the strength of their lip muscles, can use this cushion rim mouthpiece to advantage. Produces crisp, easy top tones.
- Depth of Cup: medium shallow
- Approx. Cup Diameter: 15.70 mm
- Rim Shape: extra wide
- Model No.: 11EW - A cushion-rim mouthpiece especially designed for the extreme high register. Because of the extra shallow cup, the tone is very brilliant, piercing, and cuts well. For players who have heavier than normal pressure in the high register.
- Depth of Cup: shallow
- Approx. Cup Diameter: 15.70 mm
- Rim Shape: Extra wide, rather high toward the inner edge.
- Model No.: 11-1/2A - Similar to No. 11A, but slightly smaller. Produces a rich, round tone.
- Depth of Cup: very deep
- Approx. Cup Diameter: 15.65 mm
- Rim Shape: medium wide, well rounded
- Model No.: 11-1/2C - A brilliant, scintillating tone, very easy response and good all-
- Around register.
- Depth of Cup: medium
- Approx. Cup Diameter: 15.65 mm
- Rim Shape: medium wide
- Model No.: 11-3/4C - Easy playing, with a compact, brilliant tone. Recommended for players with sensitive embouchures and narrow lips.
- Depth of Cup: medium
- Approx. Cup Diameter: 15.60 mm
- Rim Shape: medium wide, well rounded
- Model No.: 12 - This popular model produces a full, mellow tone. A good choice for players of the English or Italian school who are accustomed to small mouthpieces and players with heavy, weak lips.
- Depth of Cup: deep
- Approx. Cup Diameter: 15.20 mm
- Rim Shape: broad, rather flat
- Model No.: 12B - The same rim as No. 12, with a slightly shallower cup to make the tone more lively. High register responds well.
- Depth of Cup: medium deep
- Approx. Cup Diameter: 15.20 mm
- Rim Shape: broad, rather flat
- Model No.: 12C - The same rim as No. 12, with a slightly shallower cup to make the tone more lively. High register responds well.
- Depth of Cup: medium
- Approx. Cup Diameter: 15.20 mm
- Rim Shape: broad, rather flat
- Model No.: 12CW - Cup diameter and depth are the same as No. 12C, extra wide cushion rim
- Depth of Cup: medium
- Approx. Cup Diameter: 15.20 mm
- Rim Shape: broad, rather flat towards the inside
- Model No.: 17 - A small mouthpiece with a solid, compact tone. Players with thin lips find this model highly satisfactory.
- Depth of Cup: deep
- Approx. Cup Diameter: 15.10 mm
- Rim Shape: medium wide
- Model No.: 17C - A lively, clear and brilliant tone, for players with thin lips whose embouchures tire easily.
- Depth of Cup: medium
- Approx. Cup Diameter: 15.10 mm
- Rim Shape: medium wide
- Model No.: 18 - Has the same cup as No. 17, but a wider rim. Players of the old Italian or English school having heavy, soft lips and a rather sensitive embouchure choose this model.
- Depth of Cup: deep
- Approx. Cup Diameter: 15.10 mm
- Rim Shape: broad, rather flat
- Model No.: 18C - Same cup design as No. 17C, with a wider and flatter rim to distribute pressure over a larger surface.
- Depth of Cup: medium
- Approx. Cup Diameter: 15.10 mm
- Rim Shape: broad, rather flat
- Model No.: 20C - A very small mouthpiece, recommended only to players who have extremely weak or delicate lips.
- Depth of Cup: medium
- Approx. Cup Diameter: 15.00 mm
- Rim Shape: medium wide
Reviews
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Most Liked Positive Review
A very cool guitar, if you're into the 1980's shred thing!
I have been in the market for an 80's style shredder for a few years now. As a big fan of George Lynch, in particular the stuff he did from 1985 to 1990, I've been looking for a used ESP Skulls and Snakes model. That said, they are hard to find on the used market, and they command a premium price. Enter the Friedman Cali model. With its high-output humbuckers, Floyd Rose tremolo, and single volume knob, it's got similar specs as the Skulls and Snakes, and with a much lower point of entry. So, I jumped on it, and I am glad I did. I've spent the last few days getting to know my new Friedman Cali and I can say with confidence this is an excellent guitar for the price. That said, it does have some minor drawbacks that I will gladly look past given how amazing the guitar feels and sounds. My particular guitar was a scratch and dent, which in my case means pre-owned. I say this because when I took delivery of the guitar, I noticed a tremolo stop had been installed, poorly I might add. I confirmed with Friedman they did not install these at the factory; hence my opinion the guitar was previously sold to another customer. In any case, there are no other blemishes or visual imperfections to speak of other than, of course, the factory relic job. After my initial inspection, I put the guitar back in the case to chill out for 24 hours to acclimate to the environment. After that, I remove the old strings, cleaned and polished the frets, lubricated the hardware, applied contact cleaner to the pot and switch, put on fresh strings, and gave it a proper set-up. Some things I noticed during the whole process: the b-string tuner doesn't seem to work as smoothly as the other tuners. These appear to be Hipshot open gear locking tuners, similar to what I have on my Tyler, and I know they usually work very well. Next time I change strings, i will pull the tuner and take it apart for inspection. Another thing I noticed is the screw-in style tremolo bar on the Floyd Rose. This is simply an antiquated design and needs to go the way of the rest of the dinosaurs: extinction. I much prefer the convenience, feel, and adjustability of the drop-in replacement bar, so that is what I installed. Now the tremolo feels expressive and smooth, and the bar drops in quickly. Once I got the Cali set up, I was amazed how comfortable it is to play. Let's first talk materials and craftsmanship. The relic job on the maple neck and fingerboard, combined with the rolled fret edges and slick fret crowning, make this guitar feel like you've been playing it for decades. It's really quite special and something you have to play to understand. because of the compound radius and excellent fretwork, I am able to set the action very low without excessive buzzing. I use 9-gauge strings, and two tremolo springs are sufficient to ensure the tremolo sits parallel to the body while keeping low tension on the strings. Bending is super easy and very smooth, and the tremolo feels so expressive. The guitar just feels slinky and rather addicting to play. On the tone front, it's an absolute monster. The Friedman Classic pickups feature Alnico 5 magnets, which happen to be my favorite for hard rock tones. The bridge pickup sounds thick with gobs of sustain, while the neck pickup is round and fat. Both pickups are articulate and clear, and allow single notes in complex chords to shine through. Rolling back the volume knob will clean up your tone nicely, especially with a good tube amp. These guitars were a collaboration between Dave Friedman and Grover Jackson. Unfortunately, they are no longer working together, and Grover has moved to the Nashville, TN area. I do believe Friedman guitars will be hitting the market again soon, made by someone other than Grover. With that said, the Grover-era are pretty amazing guitars, and may become harder to find. So, if you are in the market for a 1980's super-Strat style shredder, I'd recommend checking out a Grover-era Friedman while you can.
Most Liked Negative Review
Amazing bass with a major flaw
Being mainly a guitarist, this bass is perfectly ideal for what my needs are. A great bass with a great sound/tone for recording, and many option with the knobs to fine tune and tweak that sound to my preference. However, my biggest gripe is that the string action is ridiculously tight for this bass. I like to play with ticker gauge strings, as I typically go for lower tunings, but this bass is (ironically with it being a 5 string) is simply not made for it. The action towards the neck of the fretboard makes thicker strings unplayable. They make contact with the fretboard at around the 2nd-3rd fret, and raising the bridge to compensate isn't enough. To make matters worse, the screws that are used to raise the strings on the bridge are very easily stripped, and I'm struggling to find any sort of replacements for them.
- Practice4
- Recording3
- All around great guitar1
- Metal songs1
- Rock songs1
- None6
- Poor Quality2
- Virtually no low end warmth.1
- Kind of expensive1
- Shipping box arrived damaged1
- Beginner2
- Stray player since 19741
- 74 years old, been playing 60 years.1
- Jazz, rock, classical player for 60 years1
- Metal,hard rock and instrumental rock1
- Sound4
- Attractive3
- Stays in Tune2
- Stays in tune2
- Tone2
Reviewed by 186 customers
Great all around strat
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byCass
fromDenver
Price is right
Sounds really good
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byTrenton
fromGladwin county
This pedal sounds quite good. It is quite customizable. If you do buy this, if you do not have the cord used to power it, there is a battery adapter under the actual pedal part. you just put the black pins on the pedal in and take the pedal off. anyways, really good sound if you want a proper rock or metal distortion/overdrive for an affordable price.
Not too bad for the price
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byJeff
fromNashville TN
Typical Chinese bling, the sound is lacking.
This drum is just like the vintage ones
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byJeff
fromSeattle, WA
Play with freelance jazz and rock standards groups. All kinds of gigs and shows. I want to buy one of the sets.
Love this guitar.
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byLarry
fromMinnesota
Love this guitar. Easy/Good tuning, very playable, thin neck is fast.
Its so good it fits my church setting well
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byjordan
fromHamilton, new jersey
This product is the best drums i've ever played on because the shells are a nice color and when you tune the drums up, it sounds so good. When you play it in a open space it fills the room and when you play it in an enclosed space it sounds even better. All Im saying is that this is hands down one of the best drum sets.
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